godbrain
godbrain

Right now either the install doesn't work or this is really bare bones and low on features...

From looking at the main web page I expected a lot more from the default install. Maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks

johnsvensson19424
johnsvensson19424

Could you elaborate on what doesn't work with the installer? I just did it myself and it works great.

tillsanders342
tillsanders342

You're right, it is low on built-in features like blogs, galleries, comments, etc. But then again, you rarely need all of them, so why not make them plugins? Its a minimalistic approach, but once you ditched your expectations, it really makes great sense: You want to start a blog? Okay, no problem. Just install the blog plugin. You also need a forum? Sure, just go ahead and install it. It's not like Wordpress, where all kinds of stuff is already baked in, no matter whether you need it or not. Feels clean, doesn't it? I think its brilliant.

Cheers! Till

emzero439
emzero439

I prefer the cleaner approach of October. You can always extend it later if you need to.

I do agree though that more plugins are needed. So, go ahead people, start making plugins =)

godbrain
godbrain

I have no problems with making these plugins etc but after the install it just looked like a bunch of text menus. If this is a CMS for developers only that's fine but that should be presented in very large letters somewhere on the first page. I thought it was a new CMS that could actually be used as a CMS after install by actual CMS users...

godbrain
godbrain

well I watched the video on the main page and it most obviously did not install right for me... I had no GUI anything. Will look into that

daftspunk
daftspunk

Please remember this is in Beta. There is always Wordpress while you wait ;-)

godbrain
godbrain

probably true but where on the site does it say its beta? If I just happened upon this site I wouldn't think that...

godbrain
godbrain

I see the site was updated to show this ;)

deadcrowwalking
deadcrowwalking

I don't mind about the Beta state as long as nothing will be broken on the way to the first stable release. ;)

Anyway, I think October CMS is one of the most promising CMSes out there at the moment. Currently I am aiming at building up my very own blog and am searching for the right tool for doing so since months. I almost settled with Anchor CMS, which feels quite clean as well, but it's miles away from the aproach October CMS does. Additionally development has very much slowed down on it. But I think I am settled with October CMS, it feels great and I am really looking forward to use it. Unfortunately I am stuck with configuring my webserver correctly at the moment. I tried my favorite - Hiawatha - like mentioned in this post.

And after I had no answere there until now I simply tried Nginx with no success as well. Ok, just quick and dirty try until now, maybe later with a little more time and care I can get it up and running. Nevertheless, any idea about the other post I mentioned is still very wellcome.

Greetings.

mickburkesnr
mickburkesnr

Firstly to address the installation issue, it's a .htaccess thing. I installed OctoberCMS for the first time and encountered the same issue as reported above. However, adding index.php after the domain solved the issue. The computer/server hosting OctoberCMS may not be able to read the .htaccess file I suspect, as when I installed OctoberCMS to a live server it installed perfectly from the word go.

I think the main problem for people coming to OctoberCMS is that it isn't WordPress. You expect to get a CMS and have the option of loads of plugins to extend the functionality of the system. But this is completely wrong. WordPress is a Blogging platform, not a CMS, and for it to become a fully fledged CMS you need to install a tonne of plugins. When I last used WordPress for a client's site (about 3 months ago) I counted that I needed between 6 to 9 plugins for it to become a website useable for the client and to meet their expectations.

This is different with OctoberCMS, as October has been designed from the start to be a CMS. You can, from the start, build a functional website without the need for all these plugins. Furthermore, the plugins that are developed for October latch on to Laravel underneath so that not only do they integrate properly but they also have the speed and security that you need on a modern website. WordPress on the other hand is effectively a free for all.

I would also argue that the backend of October is more user friendly than that of WordPress. With WordPress you are drowning in options and links etc. A lot of them though a client will never use. With October you have a simplistic backend from the start, and with a simple user restriction you can just give the client what they need to access. I've trialed it in my place of work at the moment and October has been received enthusiastically - probably because we're using a dog-awful ExpressionEngine system at the moment.

So while you are right regarding October having potential, and speaking as a veteran of WordPress websites, October is either on a par or exceeds WordPress in the places that matter: Speed, Complexity, Security and ease of use for the Client. By all means, if you have a fetish for plugins carry on with WordPress. But if you want a proper CMS, one that doesn't pretend to be something it isn't, stick with October and learn it. I have, and it's gone from being a test case for a redevelopment to being the defacto CMS for all of my upcoming projects.

godbrain
godbrain

this is quickly coming up to speed... I am happy with the way this is maturing. Still a few bumps in the road though. Thanks for all the effort.

Flynsarmy
Flynsarmy

Quote @godbrain:

probably true but where on the site does it say its beta? If I just happened upon this site I wouldn't think that...

Oh I don't know...right in the logo perhaps?

Now let's try scrolling down slightly on the home page of the website...

I see now how you'd be confused as to whether this software is in beta or not.

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godbrain
godbrain

Ok, smarty... look at my other post... "I see the site was updated to show this ;)" When I posted the original message it wasn't in the logo or anywhere else. It was added...

daftspunk
daftspunk

Bravo Flynsarmy! Bravo! (Of course I am being sarcastic)

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godbrain
godbrain

I'm glad the beta info was added...

Flynsarmy
Flynsarmy

Sorry. I was quite grumpy that morning :)

d.negativa
d.negativa

Flynsarmy ))))

mickburkesnr
mickburkesnr

Thats some mighty fine Microsoft Paint skillz there Flynsarmy ;)

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